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vantexan

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You know @vantexan constantly changes what I say into his own words. At least that is my understanding of his schtick.
Do you know what a ? is? I ask you a question and you answer by saying I didn't say that as if my question is a quote. We've gone over this before. You've said nothing is a mistake, no? In reference to my asking if you would intervene to protect a child from molestation. You have said repeatedly that you wouldn't interfere. So in your opinion is sex with.children evil and sin? In the past we discussed whether children should be exposed to graphic images of sex acts in school libraries. You asked me who decides whether it's obscene or not? That just because I deem it obscene doesn't mean other parents might also. We've already established that if you disagree with the Bible in certain verses you choose to ignore them as they are just the opinion of men. Feel free to tell me where I've changed what you've said in the past or recently. Believe me if I have to choose between what I've learned from the Bible, and the direct interaction with Jesus and the Holy.Spirit you claim to have, I'll take what God speaks to me through his written word over what you're selling every time.
 

vantexan

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That is correct, I do not believe the Bible is the infallible word of God.

I believe that nothing happens in God’s world by mistake therefore I believe it is no mistake that there are mistakes in the Bible.
Right now in this country alone men are committing armed robberies. Murder. Rape. People are being cheated out of their life savings. Are those choices made by men actions that God will hold them accountable for in the Day of Judgment? Or is it your belief that no matter what they do it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't God's will therefore they won't be held accountable and will go to heaven when they die even if they never repented and asked for forgiveness? This isn't changing your words. This is asking you a question based on your previous statements and wanting you to clarify your position.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Do you know what a ? is? I ask you a question and you answer by saying I didn't say that as if my question is a quote. We've gone over this before. You've said nothing is a mistake, no? In reference to my asking if you would intervene to protect a child from molestation. You have said repeatedly that you wouldn't interfere. So in your opinion is sex with.children evil and sin? In the past we discussed whether children should be exposed to graphic images of sex acts in school libraries. You asked me who decides whether it's obscene or not? That just because I deem it obscene doesn't mean other parents might also. We've already established that if you disagree with the Bible in certain verses you choose to ignore them as they are just the opinion of men. Feel free to tell me where I've changed what you've said in the past or recently. Believe me if I have to choose between what I've learned from the Bible, and the direct interaction with Jesus and the Holy.Spirit you claim to have, I'll take what God speaks to me through his written word over what you're selling every time.
I said “I believe nothing in God’s world happens by mistake.”

Please learn how to quote properly.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Right now in this country alone men are committing armed robberies. Murder. Rape. People are being cheated out of their life savings. Are those choices made by men actions that God will hold them accountable for in the Day of Judgment? Or is it your belief that no matter what they do it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't God's will therefore they won't be held accountable and will go to heaven when they die even if they never repented and asked for forgiveness? This isn't changing your words. This is asking you a question based on your previous statements and wanting you to clarify your position.
I believe and put my faith in if those you describe know and accept God’s love for them, through what Jesus accomplished through His life, death and most importantly His resurrection then all those you describe have nothing to worry about as far as heaven goes.
 

vantexan

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I believe and put my faith in if those you describe know and accept God’s love for them, through what Jesus accomplished through His life, death and most importantly His resurrection then all those you describe have nothing to worry about as far as heaven goes.
And if they don't? And why would those who know God's love for them not try to stop others who are harming the innocent? You have said that you would not try to stop a man molesting a child if you saw him doing so. That nothing happens if it's not God's will. Am I correct or do you wish to clarify?
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Again you avoid questions. Are you saying that rape and murder aren't mistakes? If they happen it was God's will that they happened?
I answered your misquote.

I do believe that it is a mistake to rape or murder someone but I believe that after the fact they are not mistakes and yes, I believe nothing happens in God’s world by mistake even mistakes.
 

vantexan

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I answered your misquote. i don’t believe that it is a mistake to rape or murder someone but I believe that after the fact they are not mistakes and yes, I believe nothing happens in God’s world by mistake even mistakes.
Doublespeak. And it's not a misquote. It's a question.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
And if they don't? And why would those who know God's love for them not try to stop others who are harming the innocent? You have said that you would not try to stop a man molesting a child if you saw him doing so. That nothing happens if it's not God's will. Am I correct or do you wish to clarify?
You’ll have to ask God that one.
 

vantexan

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God’s ways are not man’s ways. You may want to listen to Him, if only you believed He still speaks.
And we aren't God, we're men. If you would let a child be harmed because you believe that it wouldn't happen if it wasn't God's will because nothing happens unless God allows it to happen then you are so far from the Bible it's scary.
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
And if they don't? And why would those who know God's love for them not try to stop others who are harming the innocent? You have said that you would not try to stop a man molesting a child if you saw him doing so. That nothing happens if it's not God's will. Am I correct or do you wish to clarify?
Your god harmed the innocent. He must be ok with and condone it.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
And we aren't God, we're men. If you would let a child be harmed because you believe that it wouldn't happen if it wasn't God's will because nothing happens unless God allows it to happen then you are so far from the Bible it's scary.
I‘d rather be far from the Bible than far from the living God as you seem to be.
 
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