religion

[vantexan]

You don’t believe it is a mistake for someone to make the horrible evil choice to rape or murder someone?

I can’t believe that. I just think you have a different understanding of how I am using the word mistake.

I believe God works all things out for good.

God chose the evil of the cross.

There is no badder than the bad if the cross.

Don't worry little Susie. You aren't old enough to get pregnant yet. See, it all worked out.

 

[vantexan]

I posted the @vantexan post in question. You have to understand @vantexan’s strawman posting tactics.

He did not ask me what I would do?

He asked me if I would take specific actions and I answered.

I never said I would not intervene.

In the situation he described I would intervene just not in the 2 ways that he described and asked.

The manner that he asks questions is IMO disingenuous and arguably fit into the strawman mold of discussing.

Draw your own conclusion of course.

I believe the only way to know what the right action for one to specifically take is to rely what the Holy Spirit is specifically and personally telling you.

Last June you specifically said you wouldn't intervene and it certainly sounds like that is what you'd do now, not intervene.

 

[vantexan]

I posted the @vantexan post in question. You have to understand @vantexan’s strawman posting tactics.

He did not ask me what I would do?

He asked me if I would take specific actions and I answered.

I never said I would not intervene.

In the situation he described I would intervene just not in the 2 ways that he described and asked.

The manner that he asks questions is IMO disingenuous and arguably fit into the strawman mold of discussing.

Draw your own conclusion of course.

I believe the only way to know what the right action for one to specifically take is to rely what the Holy Spirit is specifically and personally telling you.

It's a simple question. If you saw a man molesting a child would you try to stop him? In the past you said no.

 

[vantexan]

Never said that.

I believe it would be a mistake for any human being to make the evil, horrible choice to rape or murder someone.

But would you punish them for doing so? If they never become a Christian and ask for forgiveness will God punish them?

 

[Integrity]

Last June you specifically said you wouldn't intervene and it certainly sounds like that is what you'd do now, not intervene.

That is in untrue statement.

 

[Integrity]

It's a simple question. If you saw a man molesting a child would you try to stop him? In the past you said no.

Yes.

No, I would not try and stop him.

I would cal 911.

 

[Integrity]

But would you punish them for doing so? If they never become a Christian and ask for forgiveness will God punish them?

God is so good.

While we were sinners he loves us so!!!!!

I believe the Holy Spirit prompted me and enlightened my mind to the truth that I am not relying on Him enough in my interactions with you on the BC.

Let me pray(talk to) God about this and I will respond if and as He guides, leads, or directs me.

 

[Integrity]

It is important that we get still to wait on God. And it is best that we get alone,
preferably with our Bible outspread before us. Then if we will we may draw near
to God and begin to hear Him speak to us in our hearts. I think for the average
person the progression will be something like this: First a sound as of a Presence
walking in the garden. Then a voice, more intelligible, but still far from clear.
Then the happy moment when the Spirit begins to illuminate the Scriptures, and
that which had been only a sound, or at best a voice, now becomes an intelligible
word, warm and intimate and clear as the word of a dear friend. Then will come
life and light, and best of all, ability to see and rest in and embrace Jesus Christ
as Saviour and Lord and All.

The Pursuit of God, A. W. Tozer, Christian Publications, 1982,1993, page 74

 

[Thebrownblob]

I posted the @vantexan post in question. You have to understand @vantexan’s strawman posting tactics.

He did not ask me what I would do?

He asked me if I would take specific actions and I answered.

I never said I would not intervene.

In the situation he described I would intervene just not in the 2 ways that he described and asked.

The manner that he asks questions is IMO disingenuous and arguably fit into the strawman mold of discussing.

Draw your own conclusion of course.

I believe the only way to know what the right action for one to specifically take is to rely what the Holy Spirit is specifically and personally telling you.

Huh?

 

[Thebrownblob]

It's a simple question. If you saw a man molesting a child would you try to stop him? In the past you said no.

That was a long soliloquy he gave to say “draw your own conclusion” instead of just saying yes I would intervene and stop a horrible action., Why would I need to draw my own conclusion if you stopped it?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yes.

No, I would not try and stop him.

I would cal 911.

What the hell dude? Pretty disappointing.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I’m just having a hard time understanding the reasoning for not intervening in a situation like that, of stopping someone from being assaulted. I have a few points of reasoning, assuming I’m understanding what you said correctly

I would feel it’s the right thing to intervene and stop someone from being assaulted like that. Wouldn’t it be right for me to do what I truly believe is right?

And if the reasoning to not intervene is that it was what was meant to happen, couldn’t one argue there is no need for policemen or firemen or paramedics?

I’m not as well versed in the Bible as you all are, but didn’t Jesus urge us feed and help the poor? How is one to know when they should help their neighbor and when they should accept that something was meant to be?





thank you for the discussion

It is the right thing to stop an evil act like that by intervening.

 

[Integrity]

What the hell dude? Pretty disappointing.

How so?

 

[vantexan]

That is in untrue statement.

Which part?

 

[vantexan]

Yes.

No, I would not try and stop him.

I would cal 911.

That's pathetic.

 

[Integrity]

Which part?

This part.

Last June you specifically said you wouldn't intervene and it certainly sounds like that is what you'd do now, not intervene.

 

[Integrity]

That's pathetic.

I know, I missed the second l in the word call in my reply. My bad.

 

[vantexan]

God is so good.

While we were sinners he loves us so!!!!!

I believe the Holy Spirit prompted me and enlightened my mind to the truth that I am not relying on Him enough in my interactions with you on the BC.

Let me pray(talk to) God about this and I will respond if and as He guides, leads, or directs me.

Uh-huh.

 

[vantexan]

This part.

Did you not say last June that you wouldn't intervene?

 

[Integrity]

Huh?

By now you must see the disingenuous communication style of @vantexan. IMO it is very similar to the communication style of the Pharisee sect of the times of Jesus.