religion

[DriveInDriveOut]

Everything this guy says is stupid gobbledygook nonsense going in circles, never answering questions directly, contradicting himself, and disregarding scripture at every turn.

It's really not worth engaging him.
He has no integrity.

 

[Integrity]

No, you never stop loving and you never stop caring. You also never stop telling them the truth about right and wrong even if they don’t agree with you. Some people call that being hateful when you tell them they’re wrong.

God is so good!

I asked multiple questions.

I respect your privacy not to answer.

 

[Thebrownblob]

No that is not my understanding.

Why would I need to savior if I’m not damned?

 

[Integrity]

Everything this guy says is stupid gobbledygook nonsense going in circles, never answering questions directly, contradicting himself, and disregarding scripture at every turn.

It's really not worth engaging him.
He has no integrity.

IMO this is not accurate.

 

[Thebrownblob]

IMO this is not accurate.

But he believes it is so that’s OK!

 

[Integrity]

Why would I need to savior if I’m not damned?

My understanding is that would be a decision between you and the God of the Universe?

What brought you to this need?

 

[Integrity]

But he believes it is so that’s OK!

I stated my peace, that is between him and God, as he understands God

 

[Thebrownblob]

I stated my peace, that is between him and God, as he understands God

So you agree, the Holy Spirit could’ve told him that!

 

[Integrity]

So you agree, the Holy Spirit could’ve told him that!

Yes. (Direct answer to direct question)

I do not question or put limits on what the Holy Spirit says or might say to myself or others.

I definitely don’t limit the speaking voice of God to religion, or religious texts of any kind. I believe God speaks what He wants, when He wants, and to whom He wants.

I do love the Bible though, I find it very useful.

 

[Integrity]

The Bible will never be a living Book to us until we are convinced that God is
articulate in His universe. To jump from a dead, impersonal world to a dogmatic
Bible is too much for most people. They may admit that they should accept the
Bible as the Word of God, and they may try to think of it as such, but they find it
impossible to believe that the words there on the page are actually for them. A
man may say, "These words are addressed to me, " and yet in his heart not feel
and know that they are. He is the victim of a divided psychology. He tries to
think of God as mute everywhere else and vocal only in a book.

The Pursuit of God, A. W. Tozer, Christian Publications, 1982,1993, page 74

 

[vantexan]

The Bible will never be a living Book to us until we are convinced that God is
articulate in His universe. To jump from a dead, impersonal world to a dogmatic
Bible is too much for most people. They may admit that they should accept the
Bible as the Word of God, and they may try to think of it as such, but they find it
impossible to believe that the words there on the page are actually for them. A
man may say, "These words are addressed to me, " and yet in his heart not feel
and know that they are. He is the victim of a divided psychology. He tries to
think of God as mute everywhere else and vocal only in a book.

The Pursuit of God, A. W. Tozer, Christian Publications, 1982,1993, page 74

The irony of repeatedly quoting from a book written by a man while denying the authority of Biblical Scriptures if you disagree with them, saying it's just a book written by fallible men.

 

[Integrity]

The irony of repeatedly quoting from a book written by a man while denying the authority of Biblical Scriptures if you disagree with them, saying it's just a book written by fallible men.

I don’t see it that way.

I think Tozer has some useful insights from the Holy Spirit as do some of the authors of some of the religious books collected and called the Bible.

I have always expressed my love for the Bible and stated that I find it to be very useful in the Judie-Christian tradition.

That is my understanding at least.

 

[vantexan]

I don’t see it that way.

I think Tozer has some useful insights from the Holy Spirit as do some of the authors of some of the religious books collected and called the Bible.

I have always expressed my love for the Bible and stated that I find it to be very useful in the Judie-Christian tradition.

That is my understanding at least.

And you've repeatedly said the Bible is a book written by fallible men and that you disagree with quite a bit written in the Bible. YOU receive direct communication from God according to you, but the writers of the Bible couldn't possibly.have been directed by God to write what they did if YOU disagree with what they wrote. See the problem here?

 

[Integrity]

And you've repeatedly said the Bible is a book written by fallible men and that you disagree with quite a bit written in the Bible. YOU receive direct communication from God according to you, but the writers of the Bible couldn't possibly.have been directed by God to write what they did if YOU disagree with what they wrote. See the problem here?

All books are written by fallible men even religious texts.
Never said that.
Said that.
Never said that.
No I see no problem.

 

[vantexan]

All books are written by fallible men even religious texts.
Never said that.
Said that.
Never said that.
No I see no problem.

You are flat out lying.

 

[Integrity]

You are flat out lying.

That is untrue.

 

[vantexan]

That is untrue.

100% true.

 

[Integrity]

100% true.

IMO you need to learn to read better.

 

[Thebrownblob]

All books are written by fallible men even religious texts.
Never said that.
Said that.
Never said that.
No I see no problem.

If the Bible is fallible how do we decipher which part is true?

You may not have said God talks to you, but you said the Holy Spirit does. And apparently it tells you something in the Bible are incorrect. So at some point, the Holy Spirit directed people to write untrue things. Or at least the Holy Spirit as they saw it. Can you be sure your Holy Spirit is not telling you untrue things? How in fact could the Bible even be holy? And some people would say they don’t think it is.. that is their choice and they are not Christian. Are you sure you are?

 

[oldngray]

IMO you need to learn to read better.