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Integrity

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I didn’t know it was a game clearly it is to you. That is unfortunate. Your salvation is at steak.
I did not say anything about a game.

Misquote me all you want.

Your line if thinking and your understanding of God and of spiritual thing is losing me. We obviously have different understanding of God.

I believe Jesus came to save not condemn. I will not condemn you for your understanding. May the love of God shine unto you personally as only He can.
 

Thebrownblob

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I did not say anything about a game.

Misquote me all you want.

Your line if thinking and your understanding of God and of spiritual thing is losing me. We obviously have different understanding of God.

I believe Jesus came to save not condemn. I will not condemn you for your understanding. May the love of God shine unto you personally as only He can.
You said I was losing? Are we keeping score? Is that not a game? How can I lose if there’s no one keeping any score? Did you ask the Holy Spirit about this?
 

Thebrownblob

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I did not say anything about a game.

Misquote me all you want.

Your line if thinking and your understanding of God and of spiritual thing is losing me. We obviously have different understanding of God.

I believe Jesus came to save not condemn. I will not condemn you for your understanding. May the love of God shine unto you personally as only He can.
Jesus did come to save. I agree with you. but clearly, some will be condemned by their own doing and led astray by their own understandings and their own fleshly desires, even if they’re calling it the Holy Spirit.
 

Integrity

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Jesus did come to save. I agree with you. but clearly, some will be condemned by their own doing and led astray by their own understandings and their own fleshly desires, even if they’re calling it the Holy Spirit.
Question:

Will it be you who determines those that will be condemned by their own doing and are led astray by their own understanding and their own fleshly desires, even if they’re calling it the Holy Spirit?
 

Thebrownblob

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Question:

Will it be you who determines those that will be condemned by their own doing and are led astray by their own understanding and their own fleshly desires, even if they’re calling it the Holy Spirit?
I do not get to judge their eternal salvation. But I do have a responsibility to tell them if they are on the wrong path. Or else I will be judged. Christians are supposed to spread the good news not the fake news.
 

Integrity

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I do not get to judge their eternal salvation. But I do have a responsibility to tell them if they are on the wrong path. Or else I will be judged. Christians are supposed to spread the good news not the fake news.
Glad your understanding is that you do not get to judge anyone in this way. I share in your understanding of this.

I appreciate your sense of responsibility.

Question:

Is it you who decides what qualifies for someone to be on the wrong path that your sense of responsibility prompts you to tell them that they are on the wrong path?
 

Thebrownblob

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Glad your understanding is that you do not get to judge anyone in this way. I share in your understanding of this.

I appreciate your sense of responsibility.

Question:

Is it you who decides what qualifies for someone to be on the wrong path that your sense of responsibility prompts you to tell them that they are on the wrong path?
God holy word that he left as a that he left as a roadmap for us and a guide
and the Holy Spirit.

I’m extremely happy to know that I haven’t lost anything. Even though you said I was losing.
 

vantexan

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Based upon my understanding, belief, and faith, if those that you claim believe in Jesus in their innermost selves then IMO by definition they actually are Christian.
Muslims hold Jesus as their third most important prophet. And do not believe him to be the Son of God. So they definitely aren't Christian.
 

vantexan

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Question:

Will it be you who determines those that will be condemned by their own doing and are led astray by their own understanding and their own fleshly desires, even if they’re calling it the Holy Spirit?
If a Christian is openly living in sin the Church elders have a responsibility to tell him so and warn him he will be shunned and disfellowshipped if he refuses to stop. So yes, on this Earth there are those given responsibility to shepherd the flock and preserve it.
 

Integrity

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God holy word that he left as a that he left as a roadmap for us and a guide
and the Holy Spirit.

I’m extremely happy to know that I haven’t lost anything. Even though you said I was losing.
To clarify your words; when you said above “God holy word”, you are referring to Bible, correct?

👍
 

vantexan

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Are you an expert and authority on all Muslims and Christians?
I've read enough to know what the Muslims teach concerning Jesus. Maybe you should consider why it is that in most of the Muslim world the Bible isn't allowed in and Christians are imprisoned for proselytizing.
 

Integrity

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If a Christian is openly living in sin the Church elders have a responsibility to tell him so and warn him he will be shunned and disfellowshipped if he refuses to stop. So yes, on this Earth there are those given responsibility to shepherd the flock and preserve it.
Is it you who determines that if a Christian is openly living in sin it is the Church elders that have a responsibility to tell him so and warn him he will be shunned and disfellowshipped if he refuses to stop.

That was not the question , The question was; Is it you who decides what qualifies for someone to be on the wrong path that your sense of responsibility prompts you to tell them that they are on the wrong path?

The question was not: are there people on this earth given responsibility to shepherd the flock and preserve it.

IMO You really need to read more carefully.
 

Integrity

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I've read enough to know what the Muslims teach concerning Jesus. Maybe you should consider why it is that in most of the Muslim world the Bible isn't allowed in and Christians are imprisoned for proselytizing.
So you are not an expert on all Muslims and all Christians, correct?
 

Integrity

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God holy word that he left as a that he left as a roadmap for us and a guide
and the Holy Spirit.

I’m extremely happy to know that I haven’t lost anything. Even though you said I was losing.
I have been regularly reading the Bible since 3rd grade. I have no spiritual dissonance with the viewpoint that it can be useful as a roadmap and a guide. Both roadmaps and guides have their limitations as IMO the does as well.

How does the Holy Spirit interact with you
In deciding for you what qualifies for someone to be on the wrong path that your sense of responsibility prompts you to tell them that they are on the wrong path?
 
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