religion

[vantexan]

So you are not an expert on all Muslims and all Christians, correct?

Neither are you but I'm 100% confident that you'd find out the hard way if you told devout Muslims that they are Christians.

 

[vantexan]

Is it you who determines that if a Christian is openly living in sin it is the Church elders that have a responsibility to tell him so and warn him he will be shunned and disfellowshipped if he refuses to stop.

That was not the question , The question was; Is it you who decides what qualifies for someone to be on the wrong path that your sense of responsibility prompts you to tell them that they are on the wrong path?

The question was not: are there people on this earth given responsibility to shepherd the flock and preserve it.

IMO You really need to read more carefully.

For example, it is I who, after being told by YOU that you disagree that the Bible is the inspired Word of God and that you believe that the writers got numerous things wrong including their take on sexual sin, hell and eternal punishment, and your belief that you are spoken to directly by God, would inform the Church elders of your stands and they, if you are a member of our congregation, would tell you that you are advocating false doctrine and must stop or be separated from our congregation.

You asked if it will be you. No, the scriptures assign that authority to the Church elders although all Christians have a responsibility to warn their brothers against being involved in a sin. If I know my brother in Christ is cheating on his wife I have a responsibility to talk to him and try to persuade him to stop. I believe based on your earlier statements you'd not get involved.

 

[Integrity]

Neither are you but I'm 100% confident that you'd find out the hard way if you told devout Muslims that they are Christians.

It would be impossible to know this 100%.

 

[vantexan]

It would be impossible to know this 100%.

LOL

 

[Thebrownblob]

LOL

It would be impossible to know this 100%.

It would be 100% possible to know this. If you’d like, we can get you a flight to Syria tonight. You could report back the findings.

 

[Integrity]

For example, it is I who, after being told by YOU that you disagree that the Bible is the inspired Word of God and that you believe that the writers got numerous things wrong including their take on sexual sin, hell and eternal punishment, and your belief that you are spoken to directly by God, would inform the Church elders of your stands and they, if you are a member of our congregation, would tell you that you are advocating false doctrine and must stop or be separated from our congregation.

You asked if it will be you. No, the scriptures assign that authority to the Church elders although all Christians have a responsibility to warn their brothers against being involved in a sin. If I know my brother in Christ is cheating on his wife I have a responsibility to talk to him and try to persuade him to stop. I believe based on your earlier statements you'd not get involved.

So your answer is you and you are basing your answer on your understanding of God. Correct?

 

[Integrity]

It would be 100% possible to know this. If you’d like, we can get you a flight to Syria tonight. You could report back the findings.

I disagree.

 

[vantexan]

So your answer is you and you are basing your answer on your understanding of God. Correct?

Yes, I'm basing it on what we're told in the Scriptures. You refuse to accept what the Scriptures say on certain subjects. That's not your understanding, it's your rejection.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I disagree.

About what?

 

[Integrity]

Yes, I'm basing it on what we're told in the Scriptures. You refuse to accept what the Scriptures say on certain subjects. That's not your understanding, it's your rejection.

Yes, you as well refuse to accept Scriptures say on certain subjects as well so we have a similarly understanding.

I am not clear on what you mean by the use of the word rejection in this reply so I will have to say my understanding differs on this part.

 

[bottomups]

For example, it is I who, after being told by YOU that you disagree that the Bible is the inspired Word of God and that you believe that the writers got numerous things wrong including their take on sexual sin, hell and eternal punishment, and your belief that you are spoken to directly by God, would inform the Church elders of your stands and they, if you are a member of our congregation, would tell you that you are advocating false doctrine and must stop or be separated from our congregation.

You asked if it will be you. No, the scriptures assign that authority to the Church elders although all Christians have a responsibility to warn their brothers against being involved in a sin. If I know my brother in Christ is cheating on his wife I have a responsibility to talk to him and try to persuade him to stop. I believe based on your earlier statements you'd not get involved.

Most of the time you gotta mind your own damn business.

 

[vantexan]

Yes, you as well refuse to accept Scriptures say on certain subjects as well so we have a similarly understanding.

I am not clear on what you mean by the use of the word rejection in this reply so I will have to say my understanding differs on this part.

Please tell me what I'm rejecting?

 

[vantexan]

Most of the time you gotta mind your own damn business.

And most of the time I do. But if I saw a fellow Christian hugging and kissing someone I know isn't his wife, for example, I would have a responsibility to tell him he is wrong for doing so and he needs to stop it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Please tell me what I'm rejecting?

You’re most likely rejecting his philosophy of
“Do what thou wilt”
And then say the “Holy Spirit” told me it was OK led me.
Alistair Crowley would be proud.

Thelema - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[vantexan]

You’re most likely rejecting his philosophy of
“Do what thou wilt”
And then say the “Holy Spirit” told me it was OK led me.
Alistair Crowley would be proud.

Thelema - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have never heard of that. Did see a movie where radical feminists embraced that philosophy. It was called "Thelema and Louise."

 

[Thebrownblob]

I have never heard of that. Did see a movie where radical feminists embraced that philosophy. It was called "Thelema and Louise."

Pretty much every axiom he uses his part of this religion.

 

[vantexan]

Pretty much every axiom he uses his part of this religion.

Seems to be here trying to recruit converts.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Seems to be here trying to recruit converts.

A religion where you can do what you want and hear the Holy Spirit say whatever you want is very attractive to people with itching ears.

 

[Integrity]

Please tell me what I'm rejecting?

I believe you are rejecting the voice of God.

 

[Integrity]

A religion where you can do what you want and hear the Holy Spirit say whatever you want is very attractive to people with itching ears.

I have a relationship with God.

Religion is useful but compared to God himself it is pointless. I only desire to know Him.