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vantexan

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Absolutely not, bottom line is I could be as wrong as all you claim me to be.

I just share what I believe, that‘s all.
Why isn't Jesus telling you what positions to take? And if you're as wrong as we claim are there any repercussions? Of course not, you believe you'll go to Heaven no matter what you do or believe.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
If I do not get the chance I want to thank those who helped me nurse my most recent BC posting binge. 3 of you guys have done most of the work but I thank you all.

My current binge is ending at 7:45. I have a 12 Steps For Christians meeting to attend at 8:00.

Tomorrow is the first day of my son and I partnership in a new business venture so I will be committing my free time to the business so time I spent here at the BC will be spent in the business for the foreseeable future.

You have a few minutes to get your last shots in my friends. For now at least.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
If that‘s the way you feel, ok.

Man’s involvement makes it fallible.

Are the words that you are writing in this discussion thread a product of God or man?
So the True and Living God (a favorite expression you use), in His amazing power and providence, knew that He would be giving us a fallible book to use for our eternal salvation?
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
In His Omniscience, yes. I believe that to be true.
So the best God could do was give us a book that had mistakes? Hilarious.
So when Paul says, "ALL scripture is inspired by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correcrtion, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be complete, thoroughly furnished unto all good works ", he was lying?
 

Doublestandards

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So the best God could do was give us a book that had mistakes? Hilarious.
So when Paul says, "ALL scripture is inspired by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correcrtion, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be complete, thoroughly furnished unto all good works ", he was lying?
Do you think the best thing God gave us was the Bible?
 

rickyb

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No 1 has a monopoly on truth. This is wat star wars, the matrix and cornel west teach us
So the best God could do was give us a book that had mistakes? Hilarious.
So when Paul says, "ALL scripture is inspired by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correcrtion, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be complete, thoroughly furnished unto all good works ", he was lying?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
@Thebrownblob was thinking wat you said here about faith and how ppl shouldnt try making the world better bc they will just make it worse and i disagree.

There was another guy on the forum before i think his name was zub something, and he said something pretty similiar that we need to learn way more before we even begin to start believing and acting for a better world. I agree some philosophies are not well known like i think chomsky said economics and anarchism were examples.

Ultimately this idea could be something to keep us enslaved or let the powers that be do whatever they want.

I think we have some basic goals that we can have faith in working towards like cutting the war budget
 

rickyb

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rickyb

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That's a contradiction.

Run..Run... the inconsistencies are starting to be real evident.

I grew up in a small farming town in upstate New York where my life, and the life of my family, centered on the Presbyterian Church. I prayed and sang hymns every Sunday, went to Bible school, listened to my father preach the weekly sermon and attended seminary at Harvard Divinity School to be a preacher myself. America was a place where things could be better if we worked to make them better, and where our faith saved us from despair, self-righteousness and the dangerous belief that we knew the will of God or could carry it out. We were taught that those who claimed to speak for God, the self-appointed prophets who promised the Kingdom of God on earth, were dangerous. We had no ability to understand God's will. We did the best we could. We trusted and had faith in the mystery, the unknown before us. We made decisions - even decisions that on the outside looked unobjectionably moral - well aware of the numerous motives, some good and some bad, that went into every human act. In the end, we all stood in need of forgiveness. We were all tainted by sin. None were pure. The Bible was not the literal word of God. It was not a self-help manual that could predict the future. It did not tell us how to vote or allow us to divide the world into us and them, the righteous and the damned, the infidels and the blessed. It was a book written by a series of ancient writers, certainly fallible and at times at odds with each other, who asked the right questions and struggled with the mystery and transcendence of human existence. We took the Bible seriously and therefore could not take it literally

 

vantexan

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What is the Gospel of Jesus Christ? That he came to us as a way to eternal life if we believe in him and follow his teachings as well as the teachings of his chosen apostles who he chose to establish the Church? Or is it that he led a revolution to insure all have economic equality and are blessed with.wealth and plenty in this life? Because it seems what you have attached yourself to is the latter. To disrupt the world until you get everything the rich guy has or tear it all down to get even with the rich.who have more than you do. It's a sad way to view the world. You don't want to make the effort necessary to gain wealth legitimately. It's just give me or get destroyed. Luckily most people don't see it your way. Most people are willing to work for what they have and the utopia they create on Earth is simply to treat others the way they want to be treated. Much.of what's wrong with the world is the failure to always remember that simple, yet Golden, rule.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
What is the Gospel of Jesus Christ? That he came to us as a way to eternal life if we believe in him and follow his teachings as well as the teachings of his chosen apostles who he chose to establish the Church? Or is it that he led a revolution to insure all have economic equality and are blessed with.wealth and plenty in this life? Because it seems what you have attached yourself to is the latter. To disrupt the world until you get everything the rich guy has or tear it all down to get even with the rich.who have more than you do. It's a sad way to view the world. You don't want to make the effort necessary to gain wealth legitimately. It's just give me or get destroyed. Luckily most people don't see it your way. Most people are willing to work for what they have and the utopia they create on Earth is simply to treat others the way they want to be treated. Much.of what's wrong with the world is the failure to always remember that simple, yet Golden, rule.
The golden rule doesnt mean ripping off ppl in markets or abusing your workers

What does this mean?

J"esus was crucified on a cross as an insurrectionist because he bore witness to the divine Truth that no one has to be defined by their circumstances. Liberation from oppression is God’s gift to the powerless in society. Freedom is Jesus’ gift to all who believe. And when one accepts this liberating Gospel and makes the decision to follow Jesus, you must be prepared to go to the cross in service to others—the least of these in society."


Did they not kill him for being a freedom fighter?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The golden rule doesnt mean ripping off ppl in markets or abusing your workers

What does this mean?

J"esus was crucified on a cross as an insurrectionist because he bore witness to the divine Truth that no one has to be defined by their circumstances. Liberation from oppression is God’s gift to the powerless in society. Freedom is Jesus’ gift to all who believe. And when one accepts this liberating Gospel and makes the decision to follow Jesus, you must be prepared to go to the cross in service to others—the least of these in society."


Did they not kill him for being a freedom fighter?
No, they did not. You can't name one instance in the Gospels of Jesus "freedom fighting." He made it very clear his kingdom isn't a physical kingdom but a spiritual one. He was killed because he was attracting huge crowds and the Jewish leadership was threatened by it.
 
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