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rickyb

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Jesus came to us to make show us that anyone can make it to heaven; rich or poor, king or pauper. The best example I can think of off the top of my head is Billy Graham. He was a wealthy man. You can bet he is in heaven right now.
I guarantee you he was a false prophet and jesus saw through him

How do you explain that quote then?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Jesus came to us to make show us that anyone can make it to heaven; rich or poor, king or pauper. The best example I can think of off the top of my head is Billy Graham. He was a wealthy man. You can bet he is in heaven right now.
Billy graham supported political agendas which aligned with the powerful and wealthy. His form of christianity ignored or justified injustice
 

tourists24

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Both religious leaders i looked at says salvation comes from social justice by overturning satanic systems of exploitation and inequality
My goodness. Please please broaden your horizons on who it is you follow. Social justice does is not how you achieve salvation. Good works in and of itself cannot get you into heaven. Nowhere in the bible does it guarantee heaven by the works you do
 

tourists24

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The religious figures i quoted think its very difficult

So you can be rich and have a hard time getting into heaven or you can achieve salvation by donating your money for social justice
the rich cannot get salvation by giving their money for social justice any more than you can by fighting the good social justice fight. Go ahead and compare the sermons of Reverend Barber where he calls people to true salvation to Billy Graham in any of his speeches specifically on salvation.

Also, you do realize that Hedges and Barber are pretty well off. They're far from poor or needy
 

oldngray

nowhere special
the rich cannot get salvation by giving their money for social justice any more than you can by fighting the good social justice fight. Go ahead and compare the sermons of Reverend Barber where he calls people to true salvation to Billy Graham in any of his speeches specifically on salvation.

Also, you do realize that Hedges and Barber are pretty well off. They're far from poor or needy
Billy Graham pretty much just preached about John 3:16. He never strayed far from that and absolutely never was it about social justice.
 

vantexan

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The religious figures i quoted think its very difficult

So you can be rich and have a hard time getting into heaven or you can achieve salvation by donating your money for social justice
So if a rich man gives very generously to his church and to other charities, but is still a millionaire, is he an evil man who won't go to heaven?
 

rickyb

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My goodness. Please please broaden your horizons on who it is you follow. Social justice does is not how you achieve salvation. Good works in and of itself cannot get you into heaven. Nowhere in the bible does it guarantee heaven by the works you do
Thats what it said

You can give me your definition of it
 
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