Integrity
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The Bible can be useful for spiritual instruction. That is one thing I accept.
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tourists24
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Perhaps. It does perplex me that seems to be the way he behaves. But either way, I can use these forums as a learning experience with my own walk. We meet all types in this world and I'd like to learn how to approach each type of personality with as little hate or disdain as possible.
Integrity
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What'dyabringmetoday???
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It's that simple to what?
tourists24
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It's the goal for sure. But even Jesus understands that we will all sin yet should still try to stay away from it
Integrity
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Thank you.
But you've already said you reject some of the Bible as untrue. What acts do we do that the Bible calls sin that you believe isn't sin and we're ok if we do such things? Care to give specifics?
Integrity
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I certainly believe he definitely wants us to stay away from stuff that will hurt us.
Is smoking cigarettes a sin?
Integrity
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No. Specific enough?
tourists24
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I would treat cigarette smoking the same as I would anything consumed in life. If used in a gluttonous way or an addictive way, then yes would be sinful
Integrity
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OK.
How many cigarettes in a day would be gluttonous for you to determine that someone is sinning with cigarettes?
How would you determine if someone is using cigarettes in an addictive way for you to determine that they are sinning with cigarettes?
That's it in a nutshell. You want to tell us we worship a book like it's a golden calf idol. That the book is flawed. Written by flawed men. And that you have the right to accept or reject parts of it. But you won't tell us the specific parts you reject. Say that's between you and God. You don't mind telling us we're wrong but you don't have the courage of your convictions to tell us why. The Apostle Paul had no such qualms. He clearly spelled out the things that would cause us to lose our soul. And you reject that because you say you've been told directly by God what is right and wrong.
tourists24
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There is no way to determine an exact number and I think you know that. You would have to be more involved in a person's life to know that. Some people can have a beer or two and carry on with life easily. Recovering alcoholics may not be able to have any. Knowing your history and the things you do for addicts yourself, you would be able to tell me a better answer on that. As for myself, I pray about giving me the strength on issues in my personal life that may seem bad for my physical and spiritual health
Integrity
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So then, more than the Bible is needed to determine this?
Doing harm to your body is sinful. But addiction is another issue altogether. Addiction is a chemical dependence that requires treatment. Is often extremely difficult to extricate yourself from. In my mind the starting to take anything you know can harm you if abused is sinful. But the addiction requires mercy. That's where God's mercy and grace comes in. Too often addictions happen when people are too young and immature to realize the ramifications of their actions.
But what about drug use? People like to party. They snort cocaine. Purposely getting intoxicated for pleasure is sinful. Not only that but buying cocaine supports a business that the government has declared illegal. That people die not only from overdosing but also from the violence associated with it. So to purposely use a drug like cocaine isn't something a Christian should do.
But if everything has a moral relevance to it rather than a specific right or wrong then how can we be held accountable for our actions?
Integrity
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Is overeating a sin?
Gluttony is a sin.
Thebrownblob
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Integrity
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Is overeating gluttonly?
tourists24
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Sure, but the Bible IS needed. How did I know gluttony or addiction is considered sinful to start with? Why do you think I seek out people that think differently than myself? Why go to multiple media sources for help? Why do you pray about things (what you may say is the Spirit talking to you)? But it all starts with going to the gospels
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