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[Thebrownblob]

Rev.20:11- There are at least three ways to look at this great judgment scene.
1)You can view this great judgment scene as completely focused on first century Rome, with this judgment describing a first century judgment that is not the end of the world.
2) You can view this great judgment scene as completely focused on first century Rome, with this judgment describing the final judgment of first century Rome that we know will happen at the end of the world.
3)You can view this great judgment scene as including Rome and all other enemies of God that came or will come after Rome, with this judgment describing their final judgment at the end of the world.
BrownFush- amillennialist
"Dr"Jeremiah's sight says that we are "living in the time of signs.
Jesus said there will be no sign.

Hmmm in Matthew 24 he does say no one will know the date and time and I agree with that, but he does seem to say there will be signs that it is close.

 

[BrownFlush]

Hmmm in Matthew 24 he does say no one will know the date and time and I agree with that, but he does seem to say there will be signs that it is close.

what verse?

 

[tourists24]

"Dr"Jeremiah is a false teacher.
Revelation has nothing to do with the "end of days".
There is only one judgment day taught in the scripture.
The "Rapture'' is not found in the Bible or taught in the Bible.

I rest my case. Like I said, so many disagreements

 

[BrownFlush]

I rest my case. Like I said, so many disagreements

Might want to dig in.
I don't think division makes the Lord happy.
Agree to disagree and all will be fine is not a good position.

 

[Thebrownblob]

what verse?

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d]31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

But I do agree no Man knows the day or the hour and people that say they do are telling you something false.

 

[BrownFlush]

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d]31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

But I do agree no Man knows the day or the hour and people that say they do are telling you something false.

Verse 34 takes care of it. What Jesus is talking about it has already happened. Do you see"this generation"?
He is not talking about the second coming. He is talking about the destruction of Jerusalem that happened in 70AD.

Notice the beginning of Matthew 24:3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
They ask him three separate questions. To be fair, they thought if the temple was going to be destroyed it would be the end of the world. Notice how Jesus shifts gears and answers their 3rd question....
Verse 36 "But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."
"that day" is not the day he has been talking about. "that day" there will be no warning, no signs, the world will be partying like in the days of Noah. Jesus didn't even know when he was coming back when he walked on the earth. A"thief in the night" V43 gives no warning or sign.

But, he knew God's judgement was coming to Jerusalem for rejecting the Messiah. The warnings and signs were for those Jews who became Christians who were in Jerusalem. "when you see these things" know the Roman army is coming. Flee. Don't even go downstairs to get your belongings. Hope it's not in the winter(have you ever prayed the Lord doesn't come in the winter? I haven't ) It will be a hard for a nursing mothers to leave... all kinds of signs and warnings for "that generation who will see it."
If one does not understand the "judgement language" in the verses before verse 34 , it doesn't matter. That generation, verse 34, seen it happen. We did not and will not.

 

[BrownFlush]

Hmmm in Matthew 24 he does say no one will know the date and time and I agree with that, but he does seem to say there will be signs that it is close.

Premill fails to to understand the spiritual nature of the church.
Also, Matthew 24 is totally butchered. Verse 34 takes care of the false teaching.

Up and until verse 33 are warnings and signs of the coming destruction of Jerusalem. It happened in 70 AD. Verse 35 begins another subject. The second coming.